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Boyle, Sagan: Scientific & Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency Part 5.

shutterstock_83267182Shut up!-Part 5, really??…YEP!-lol:) For current context check out: Boyle, Sagan: Scientific & Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency: Part 1 Tweeting Bird: Say What? aka Boyle, Sagan: Scientific and Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency Part 2 Boyle, Sagan: Scientific and Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency Part 3 Boyle, Sagan: Scientific & Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency: Part 4

Warning: IF your individual digestive needs (as in brain/mind/perception/scientific/spiritual food digestive needs) do not require any green leafy vegetables or you are averse to eating/sampling any food that is different (i.e. hot or spicy, gooey or sour and not necessarily sweet and texturally what you are comfortably accustomed to regularly consuming or If You have any brain/mind allergies)…PLEASE, don’t read on!:)

IF you eat only what you like: Read at your own risk, okay? OKAY-lol:) Are you an advertuous mind-food sampler/eater?? Curiosity can be deadly…but, you’re not a, i’m sure you’ll be fine! -lol:)

Ah, this post intro reminds me of when my kids were babies and feeding them different veggies to sample for the first time…you know, the song singing, the whirling of the spoon up and down and all around, trying to get them to open up and eat: You’re not gonna spit this post back at me…are YOU?!-lol:)


From: joanie

To: my blog Readers:

i care about Your Wellness or i wouldn’t write! 🙂

i’m telling ya, this post series covers a variety of  ingredients/topic(s) of science and spirituality…compassion calls for vegetable soup; Yummy. My last post on this topic series: Boyle, Sagan: Scientific & Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency: Part 4 spot lighted Sagan….this one will focus on Boyle. Plus, this post will bounce around a bit!  Yes, my brain bounces. Yes, it will meander and yes, it will ramble…lots!!:) IF you only like smooth sailing/rides…exit now….cause this ain’t a smoothie.

Partners and Caregivers, at times, have to discuss uncomfortable topics and situations that force them to face fear, anger and a wide-range of difficult emotions/perceptions/ long-held and short-held beliefs/superstitions, etc. to find, achieve and maintain wellness!

i wish life was always a smooth ride! It’s not…we all need to learn to deal with it and adjust, and keep plugging along.  i hope this post will help You  keep plugging along!🙂

Read an eye-mind-heart-opener illustration about counsel (or mind medicine/guidance) that we may NOT like or have to take…this is my twist on it:  what if your thumb was disjointed/dislocated and just hanging off your hand…we all know how important our thumb is in using our much needed hand. Would you fear the temporary pain of having it pushed/adjusted/popped back in place??…you may fear the pain, but you would endure this temporary discomfort knowing that long-term your hand would function better, right?

Personally, i enJOY a wide-variety of mind/body food and have come to appreciate/learn that i have a spiritual need along with a physical need..physical food may fill one up, but somehow leaves one empty too…know what i mean?! i need nourishment, refreshment, comfort and “understanding” that makes me truly breathe, makes my blood flow– engaging my heart and my mind together unitedly…churning, moving, flowing, growing, bending…Flexible-Purposeful-LIVING is what i like!:)


BOYLE is gonna boil…over!

Robert Boyle is fascinaaatttiiinnnggg to me: “Boyle was never a student at a university. (Dutton 1951, 20)” “Boyle stressed the need to have an examined faith. He pointed out that “usually, such as are born in such a place, espouse the opinions true or false, that obtain there” (BW, 12:421, Birch 1772, VI:712), indeed, “the greatest number of those that pass for Christians, profess themselves such only because Christianity is the religion of their Parents, or their Country, or their Prince, or those that have been, or may be, their Benefactors; which is in effect to say, that they are Christians, but upon the same grounds that would have made them Mahometans, if they had been born and bred in Turky” (BP 7:233, BOA §3.7.5, pp 301–2). ~Robert Boyle Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy goes on to say:

Boyle felt that more was required of the thinking believer. Locke agreed: often a child’s notion of God does more “resemble the Opinion, and Notion of the Teacher, than represent the True God” (Essay, 1.14.13).

{Boyle was an AWAKE ACCEPTER…a THINKING BELIEVER…not a blind-robot-parrot reciting parental words/beliefs/traditions…whatever he believed–be it scientific or spiritual…he made the TRUTH his OWN through on-going study and investigation. i RESPECT that a lot!}

Did You know Boyle had a wish list? (What’s on Yours?) My wish list for You:) my Readers: You will know the Truth, Practice it (compassion), Be well and Live Long in peace!:)

Here’s his:

Boyle’s first ‘wish’ was the ‘Prolongation of Life’.

Since the average life expectancy at the start of the 17th century was just 40, Boyle’s first wish was certainly achieved. And it remains a hot topic for scientists today.

His hopes for the cure of diseases by transplantation and drugs to appease pain and aid sleep have both become inherent features of contemporary medicine and yet these were predictions he was making over 350 years ago.

‘We have seen numerous of his other predictions realised in various ways, including flight, modern healthcare prolonging life, Kevlar body armour, underwater explorations and GPS navigation.’ Read more:

“He made a “wish list” of 24 possible inventions which included “The Prolongation of Life”, the “Art of Flying”, “perpetual light”, “making  armour light and extremely hard”, “A ship to sail with All Winds, and a  Ship not to be sunk”, “practicable and certain way of finding  Longitudes”, “potent drugs to alter or Exalt Imagination, Waking, Memory  and other functions and appease pain, procure innocent sleep, harmless  dreams etc”. They are extraordinary because all but a few of the 24 have  come true.[11][12] ~wikipedia”

“Boyle is ambivalent about the function of miracles. Generally he regards them as being philosophically relevant after we have a proof of God’s existence, something which natural theology will afford us. (Boyle fastens on two main types of design arguments: those involving  the complexity of animate beings, particularly very small animate  beings,[28] and those which highlight the need to explain the origin and continuing function of natural laws: God must not only sustain God’s creatures, Boyle argues, he must also sustain the regularities which we recognize as lawlike.)…Boyle had a straightforward notion of creation. First of all God, at a particular, fairly recent, point in absolute time, made matter.”

“After having made matter, started it moving, and given it laws, God then formed the matter into particular structures and shapes, including certain “seeds.” Then he added some “seminal” principles. Boyle does not clearly indicate whether or not these are a special subclass of natural laws affecting matter, or whether they are in some way what he sometimes calls “supra-mechanical,” though he does point out that if there is a mechanism for animal inheritance, then it would seem to require a framing intelligent agent (BW, 12:445–6, Birch 1772, VI:728–9. Anstey 2002a provides a full discussion of the issue.)

Considerations from: Robert Boyle: an Introduction by Michael Hunter–Birkbeck College, University of London:

“Boyle’s major preoccupation was the relationship between God’s power, the created realm, and man’s perception of it, a topic on which he wrote extensively, in books mainly published in the 1680s, though the views that they expressed may be traced in embryonic form in his earlier writings. In them, Boyle laid stress on the extent to which God’s omniscience transcended the limited bounds of human reason, taking up a position that contrasted with the rather complacent rationalism of contemporary divines such as Joseph Glanvill. He also reflected at length on the proper understanding of final causes, and in conjunction with this provided one of the most sophisticated expositions of the design argument in his period. Indeed, Boyle’s significance for the history of science depends almost as much on the profound views on difficult issues put forward in these philosophical writings as it does on his experimental treatises.”

It is fit for a man to know his own abilities and weaknesses, and not think himself obliged to imitate all that he thinks fit to praise. ~Robert Boyle

Do you believe in Angels?! (Boyle did!) An article back in 2001: “Do You Believe in Angels?”

“The above question, posed to more than 500 residents of Quebec, was responded to in the affirmative by 66 percent of those polled. As reported in Canada’s Le Journalde Montréal, one researcher credits the widespread belief in the supernatural not only to Roman Catholicism but also to a strong Buddhist influence in the province. Nonetheless, sociologist Martin Geoffroy is surprised that only one third of those surveyed admitted to belief in the Devil. “What is disturbing,” he states, “is the positivism. We believe in angels but not in the devil. We dismiss the negative.”

Here’s an excerpt from an article: Angels Who They Are?…that may give you another perspective on Angels:

According to the Bible, angels are spirits, just as God himself is a Spirit. (Psalm 104:4; John 4:24) The angelic family is large, numbering into the millions. (Revelation 5:11) And all of them are “mighty in power.” (Psalm 103:20) Though angels are like humans in that they have personality and are given free will, they did not begin their lives as humans. In fact, God created angels long before mankind’s appearance—even before the creation of planet Earth. When God “founded the earth,” says the Bible, “the morning stars [angels] joyfully cried out together, and all the sons of God began shouting in applause.” (Job 38:4, 7)

Do you believe in demons? (Boyle did!) Interesting, eh?? Here’s another excerpt from an article that may give you another perspective on this topic:

Who Are the Demons?

“GHOSTS, ghouls, goblins, genies, demons are spirit entities that people of various religions believe in and view as malevolent, benevolent, or both. Other people dismiss belief in spirits as just a superstition or as a figment of the imagination.”

“When God created spirit creatures, he made them free moral agents, able to choose for themselves whether to do good or bad. Sadly, after the creation of humankind, an undisclosed number of angels chose to do bad by rebelling against God.”

What is spiritism?? For this post: this description/definition (from Insight on Scriptures) will be used:

“The belief or doctrine that the spirits of the human dead, surviving the death of the physical body, can and do communicate with the living, especially through a person (a medium) particularly susceptible to their influence. Both the Bible and secular history reveal that spiritism existed from very early times. Egypt’s religion was permeated with it.  And the religion of Babylon (which city was also the chief religious center for Assyria) was spiritistic.”

“In sorcery, the use of drugs, whether simple or potent, was generally accompanied by incantations and appeals to occult powers, with the provision of various charms, amulets, etc., professedly designed to keep the applicant or patient from the attention and power of demons, but actually to impress the applicant with the mysterious resources and powers of the sorcerer.”

Here’s an interesting piece of writing by Biblical Scholars: Spirit Creatures How do they Affect Us?

“To mislead people, the demons use spiritism. The practice of spiritism is involvement with the demons, both in a direct way and through a human medium. The Bible condemns spiritism and warns us to keep free from everything connected with it. (Galatians 5:19-21) Spiritism does for the demons what bait does for fishermen. A fisherman uses a variety of baits to catch various kinds of fish. Similarly, wicked spirits use different forms of spiritism to bring all sorts of people under their influence.”

“One type of bait used by the demons is divination. What is divination? It is an attempt to find out about the future or about something unknown. Some forms of divination are astrology, the use of tarot cards, crystal gazing, palmistry, and the search for mysterious omens, or signs, in dreams. Although many people think that practicing divination is harmless, the Bible shows that fortune-tellers and wicked spirits work together. For instance, Acts 16:16-18 mentions “a demon of divination” that enabled a girl to practice “the art of prediction.” But she lost this ability when the demon was cast out of her.”

“Another way that the demons mislead people is by encouraging them to inquire of the dead. People grieving over the death of a loved one are often deceived by wrong ideas about those who have died. A spirit medium may give special information or may speak in a voice that seems to be that of a dead person. As a result, many people become convinced that the dead are really alive and that contacting them will help the living to endure their grief. But any such “comfort” is really false as well as dangerous. Why? Because the demons can imitate the voice of a dead person and give a spirit medium information about the one who died. (1 Samuel 28:3-19)  So “anyone who inquires of the dead” has been misled by wicked spirits and is acting contrary to the will of God. (Deuteronomy 18:10, 11; Isaiah 8:19) Therefore, be careful to reject this dangerous bait used by the demons.”

French Protestant Professor Oscar Cullmann writes in his book Immortality of the Soul or Resurrection of the Dead?: “There is a radical difference between the Christian expectation of the resurrection of the dead and the Greek belief in the immortality of the soul. . . . Although Christianity later established a link between these two beliefs, and today the average Christian confuses them completely, I see no reason to hide what I and the majority of scholars consider to be the truth. . . . The life and thought of the New Testament are entirely dominated by faith in the resurrection. . . . The whole man, who is really dead, is brought back to life by a new creative act of God.”

Scientifically speaking some wouldn’t deny electricity or gravity exists…fundamental forces of Nature: do you only believe what you see?? We cannot see the wind, yet we feel it. We know it exists. Is any life independent of wind?!

“The mistral ranks right alongside other famous winds, such as the foehn of the Alps, the pampero of South America, the chinook of the North American Rockies, the harmattan of northwest Africa,”

“Three, six, or nine days,” goes the old Provençal saying regarding how long the mistral will blow. But this masterful wind can blow for a much longer period than that. In 1965, for example, it blew for 23 days nonstop!”

“Man has learned to cope with the mistral. Parallel hedges protect the fields, and old village houses rarely have an opening to the north. Though its chilly winds can be quite discomforting, the mistral nevertheless can be viewed as a master landscape architect.” ~The Mistral A Master Landscape Designer

We enJOY a cool breeze on a hot day. We also acknowledge that this same wind can whip up into a destructive tornado. We acknowledge the positive and the negative of wind. We act accordingly…we check the weather… don’t know about You, i’m NOT a hurricane chaser!

Life is interdependent…many variables/factors both visible and invisible, both profound and subdued contribute to our wellness or take away from it! So, let’s think about:

Questions for Consideration:

  • Is it superstitious to believe that another life-form with superior skills than man could exist?!
  • Is it unreasonable to believe that angels and/or demons could influence man in either positive or negative ways?!
  • How will you protect yourself from any negative demonic-influences?!
  • Could there be positive (invisible) influences out there of which i am not totally aware?
  • Could there be negative (invisible) influences out there of which i am not totally aware?
  • Could invisible forces (positive/angelic or negative/demonic) be designing or contributing to the world’s current landscape i.e. social conditions, governments, religions, and/or crime, violence, etc.?
  • Do my associations, books, media choices, friends bring me under positive or negative influences?!
  • How can i break free from any negative/damaging influences both of a scientific or spiritual nature?
  • Is my thinking disjointed and how can accurate knowledge/truth/investigation (scientific & spiritual “understanding” of life interdependency)adjust it (so i can function better/make better choices)?

THANKS for Reading & not spitting up this post!🙂 We certainly learn a lot from Boyle. He made the Truth his own through life-long, on-going scientific and spiritual study and investigation. He was not afraid of the unknown…neither should we…be.

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