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Boyle, Sagan: Scientific & Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency: Part 4

shutterstock_62714629(1)THANK YOU for joining me in this on-going writing/discussion/work of Scientific & Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency…Part 4. Boyle and Sagan bring a lot to the table of this topic. (For context purposes, please check out the previous posts 1-3): Boyle, Sagan: Scientific and Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency Part 3 Tweeting Bird: Say What?  Boyle, Sagan: Scientific & Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency: Part 1

Not sure “exactly” what i will bring to this table myself today/tonight/tomorrow: a salmagundi mix…i’m sure, some of which you may not like…hey, IF we only eat what we like i.e. sweets and not any broccoli or spinach …green leafy vegetables…our health can be negatively affected; for sure. You’re adult enough to eat some veggies, right -lol:) Good Health to You!:)

Eat Your Veggies!…Please!:)


Sagan believed and/or wanted to believe in “other” life in our Universe…other intelligent life that is.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.” ~ Sagan.

He needed proof. What do you need to believe? or accept? or put faith in?…how do you personally build your belief system? Do you blindly believe information? Does the majority rule/popular opinion must be right/correct? Do you investigate facts? Are you an Awake Accepter? or an asleep-zombie-follower? WAKE-UP -lol  NOW!:) before you hurt yourself or somebody else…sleep-walking/sleep-living/sleep-uninformed-choosing/can be really dangerous!

To act, decide, live without being totally awake or attune/conscious of what you are doing and the immediate and long-term consequences or your choices (both big and small)…leads to disaster and/or death! 🙁

It’s like falling asleep at the wheel or…


Would You drive without any brakes?? Not IF You want to live! Driving too fast without any brakes is DANGEROUS LIVING or fast maiming/dieing!  Brakes offer security and comfort. Living without any self-control or self-restraint or wisdom/practical knowledge or a solid belief system based on accuracy/authenticity…is like driving a car without brakes! It’s just a matter of when you crash not if.

Would you get into a car without any brakes and go for a ride?!

Would you believe just anything…without any investigation? You have the gift of “FREE”-will…don’t misuse it and enslave/endanger yourself by beliefs…false ones. Go beyond false beliefs…that are deadly. Personally, for me: i’m going beyond… through tons of on-going study/research…i have also grown in my beliefs with age and maturity and work…i have carefully constructed my “progressive” faith aka my belief-system. What makes up your belief system? Is your belief system prolonging your life and those in your care and taking you to wellness? Can You compare Your belief-system to a diamond? with many facets…compassion shines brilliantly…

Every day we think/practice our beliefs. Our beliefs are big and small. Our beliefs are like dictators. They solicit/demand choice and action and work to maintain. Our beliefs hold power over us in big and small ways.  Partners and Caregivers…All of US want our choices to reflect compassion and wisdom = WELLNESS!🙂

Our beliefs do dictate…tell us what to do!

Better make sure such powerful things (dictators) as beliefs are accurate and authentic…Our beliefs hold a lot of power of life or death. Our belief system from recently-acquired beliefs to ones accumulated over-time of our life-course…dictate what we do and what we don’t do every day! Too much white sugar is bad for me. Is that pasta gluten-free? I need to get to the gym. I need another cup of coffee. Should i meditate? or pray? Can’t miss this program on T.V., etc. Do i take this medication? Do i smoke? Do i drink? Beliefs tell you what to eat, what to wear, where to live, what to say…how to act and how to react.

Beliefs dictate the direction of your life!

Beliefs fall into different realms…superficial and deep. This discussion/post is “attempting” to focus on science and spirituality…with different bread crumbs sprinkled with a salmagundi sampling aka quotes/excerpts…for you to taste and digest IF YOU CHOOSE: Bon Appetit!:) (FYI: highlighted what i thought noteworthy.)

“Ann Druyan, Sagan’s wife, describes him as a “scientist through and through.” Sagan’s religious views stemmed from his emphasis on evidence and truth — two pursuits that ruled out traditional worldviews of God to him. Contrary to other labels, Druyan says Sagan identified himself as agnostic, not atheist — he didn’t believe in religions and tried to not belittle them. But this didn’t mean he wasn’t a spiritual person, she said.” ~How Carl Sagan Worked by Marianne English

The major religions on the Earth contradict each other left and right You can’t all be correct. And what if all of you are wrong? It’s a possibility, you know. You must care about the truth, right? Well, the way to winnow through all the differing contentions is to be skeptical. I’m not any more skeptical about your religious beliefs than I am about every new scientific idea I hear about. But in my line of work, they’re called hypotheses, not inspiration and not revelation.” [Dr. Arroway in Carl Sagan’s Contact (New York: Pocket Books, 1985), p. 162. ]

At the extremes it is difficult to distinguish pseudoscience from rigid, doctrinaire religion. [Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark]

I worry that, especially as the Millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us-then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. ~Carl Sagan

The Human race is poised midway between the Gods and the Beasts. ~Plotinus
Fact: Some respected scientists say that even a “simple” cell is far too complex to have arisen by chance on earth.
Question: If some scientists are willing to speculate that life came from an extraterrestrial source, what is the basis for ruling out God as that Source? ~ Is any form of life Simple?
“The world has its intellectuals and its elite to whom people look for answers to such profound questions as the origin and purpose of life and the destiny of mankind. But what insight and guidance do they have to offer? Atheism, agnosticism, evolution, and a host of other confusing and conflicting ideas and theories that are no more enlightening than the rituals and superstitions of the past. Many worldly pursuits also seem to offer a measure of satisfaction and fulfillment. People speak of success and achievement in science, art, music, sports, politics, and so on. They revel in their fleeting moments of glory. Nonetheless, the annals of history and the record books of today are full of forgotten heroes. All of this is nothing but emptiness, idleness, vanity, foolishness, purposelessness, and frustration.
Many turn to materialistic pursuits—amassing money and getting the things money can buy—and make these pursuits their goal in life. They are convinced that happiness comes from wealth, possessions, and pleasure seeking. Not only do they put their minds to it but they are willing to sacrifice everything—health, family, even conscience. What is the result? Instead of being fulfilled, they have “stabbed themselves all over with many pains.” (1 Timothy 6:10)  ~Be transformed in mind and enlightened in Heart
Back to Sagan:

“What I’m saying is, if God wanted to send us a message, and ancient writings were the only way he could think of doing it, he could have done a better job. [Dr. Arroway in Carl Sagan’s Contact (New York: Pocket Books, 1985), p. 164.]

What do you think of that statement??…i find Sagan’s book review of ancient writings: the above-statement presumptive and arrogant on a few levels…to which “ancient” writings is he referring to exactly?? and to which “God?” (Did he ever read or study these ancient writings and/or the Bible from cover to cover??) Do the Millions of Intelligent-Breathing-Fragile-Life out there who have chosen to read these ancient writings aka religious best-sellers feel insulted by that statement?!

“The Bible acquaints us with God like no other book of religion. For example, the writings of Hinduism include books of Vedic hymns, a collection ritualistic commentaries about these hymns, philosophical treatises called the Upanishads, and the epic stories known as Ramayana and the Mahabharata. The Bhagavad Gita, a book containing moral instructions, is a part of the Mahabharata. Of Buddhism’s Tipitaka (Three Collections), one volume is mainly about rules and regulations of community living for monks and nuns. Another volume deals mostly with Buddhist doctrines. A third volume is a record of the oral teachings of the Buddha. Buddha himself did not claim to be a god, and he said very little about God. The texts of Confucianism are an amalgam of records of events, moral rules, magical formulas, and songs. Granted, the holy book of Islam teaches belief in one God and presents him as God who is omniscient and has foreknowledge, but it does not even reveal the name of God, Yahweh, which appears thousands of times in the Bible.” ~Article: They were born along by Holy spirit

Questions for Mr. Sagan…who’s calling the kettle black? How many best-selling books have you written? How many of your books have your faithful read or how many videos have your believers bowed before on TV regularly and ritually?? May be? the Science God who is Sagan didn’t want to share his sovereignty with any other “God (s)” ?!  Sagan’s first writings would be considered “ancient” by younger generations, eh?…
Carl Sagan may have been one of the greatest scientists who ever lived. Then again, he may have been a relentless self-promoter who convinced everyone he was one of the greatest scientists who ever lived. Keay Davidson, science writer for the San Francisco Chronicle, aims to explain this complicated man in his biography. One thing is clear: Sagan was an extremely difficult man to love, a scientist whose passion for astronomy and biology was unparalleled, but who had little ability to express basic emotions to his wives and children. Davidson looks for reasons for this emotional distance in Sagan’s childhood, when his relationship with his mother was intense and sometimes difficult. She encouraged her bright young son to be an “intellectual omnivore,” to be passionate about knowledge, but she didn’t give him the tools to relate to humans as individuals.” ~Carl Sagan: A Life by Keay Davidson
What ancient books have you read if any?! Have they helped You understand life interdependency?! Do ancient writings hold any power over You and your beliefs? What are you letting mold your belief system: media, popular opinion, various books, ancient writings, blogs, Sagan, Boyle, etc.
Just like i am judged as a blogger/writer/author good or bad or whatever…by what i write…

 Religions—Judged by Their Books:

“In 1933 English philosopher Alfred Whitehead wrote: “No religion can be considered in abstraction from its followers.” Accordingly, on the basis of the kind of people it produces, a religion can be judged as true or false, good or bad. And, of course, the sacred scriptures it professes to follow—to the extent that their teachings are applied—has much to do with molding its believers into what they are.Sacred scriptures should offer proper guidance. They should—as the Bible expresses it—be “beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,” assisting people to become “fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.”—2 Timothy 3:16, 17. How do religious best-sellers measure up?* To what extent, for example, have Hindu and Buddhist sacred writings equipped their readers to cope with life’s problems?”* ~1513 B.C.E. Onward Religious Best-sellers

*Interesting questions for further research…THANKS a BUNCH:) for reading this “veggie” post even IF you don’t particularly care for certain vegetables.
Live Long, Live Healthy, Eat Your Veggies & Your Fruit…literally and figuratively! Base your beliefs on substance/evidence/truth!:) & don’t bow down to any fake/mortal god(s) -lol:)

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Boyle, Sagan: Scientific & Spiritual “Understanding” of Life Interdependency: Part 4

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